Don’t you fucking dare tell me it’s not okay to punch a nazi when the rise of anti-semitism is getting worse and worse.
I dislike Nazis, I do. But please don’t mix the rest of us fascists in with them. If you really insist on punching a Nazi, at least be sure it’s a Nazi first.
literally fucking choke y’all all gonna get punched
I cannot believe I seriously read a self-proclaimed fascist asking not to be included in the resistance against other fascists because “not all fascists” are Nazis like this shit literally cannot be made up I’m going to lose my mind.
Tag: punch nazis
did anyone sync that nazi punching video to the drop on 505
White supremacist Richard Spencer hails Trump’s ‘de-Judaification’ of Holocaust – U.S. News
Erasing Jews from the Holocaust is a deliberate ploy to eliminate responsibility for the past, and accountability for the present.
To everyone who was saying Trump’s statement was just intended to be ~more inclusive~ and we were overreacting: eat shit.
When literal nazis agree with you, you are doing it wrong.
White supremacist Richard Spencer hails Trump’s ‘de-Judaification’ of Holocaust – U.S. News
A PROBLEM, THOUGH, with the “hitler was in fact human, which does not preclude him from ALSO having been literally 100% bad and evil” stuff that i was talking about the other day, in relation to the Punching Nazis Discourse, is that this sometimes leads to ppl going “AND ISN’T THAT THE SCARIEST PART OF ALL, THAT ANY OF US COULD BE A HITLER!!!!!!” and like—
i mean, ok, yes. the fact that we are all capable of doing terrible things is pretty scary, sure, but i also think u have to examine where you’re situated in relation to this stuff when u make comments like that—by which i mean, if u ask me, the scariest thing about hitler is arguably, oh, idk, the fact that if he’d had his way more thoroughly, neither i nor literally anyone i’m related to would exist? like, that’s what i find scary, personally, lmao, but that’s just me.
(and also: i think there’s a tendency sometimes to use “hitler” and “nazi” as a stand-in for simply “the literal most evil a person can be”—which, fair! not unreasonable! but also, hitler in particular and nazis in general are NOT just the embodiment of standard issue evil as a vague concept; rather, they’re the embodiment of evil in combination with some specific violent and oppressive and powerful ideologies, and those of us on the other end of those ideologies are like—i mean, i’m not saying i couldn’t ever become EVIL, bcs i could, bcs i am a human and thus fallible! but i’m pretty damn fucking 8000% confident i could never become a nazi.)
anyhow, point is, i think the ability to look at hitler or at nazism and say “the scariest part of this is that it reminds me of my own human capacity for evil,” rather than “the scariest part of this is the fact that these people would literally murder every person like me in the entire world, if they could, and the world historically has never been all that invested in stopping them” speaks to a sort of privilege that needs to be thought about a little bit more, when engaging in these discussions. the ability to have that distance is a privilege—the ability to look at this stuff and draw broad theoretical conclusions about Man’s Inhumanity 2 Man or w/e rather than just like, feel incoherent visceral rage and/or blind paralyzing terror. basically, tldr, everyone should punch nazis, but also bear in mind as u do that if you aren’t descended from ppl who were the literal targets of nazis, ur relationship to nazism is necessarily going to be different from that of those of us who are, i guess, is my point.
Has anyone done this yet?
On The Propriety Of Punching Nazis, An FAQ
Can I punch Nazis?
I don’t know. Can you?
I am capable of the act, yes.
Then you should.
May I?
The answer to that is also yes.
My mother told me that violence was never the answer.
My mother told me I was handsome; you can’t always listen to your mother.
What happened to letting the other guy throw the first punch?
Nazis don’t throw the first punch. Nazis burn the first Reichstag.
Aren’t the Left supposed to be the tolerant ones?
Supposed to be the smart ones, too, but they keep falling for that “I
thought you were supposed to be the tolerant ones” horseshit.What about dialogue?
Dialogue is for reasonable people acting in good faith. Dialogue is
between two acceptable positions. “Taxes need to be raised” vs. “taxes
need to be lowered” is grounds for dialogue. “Taxes need to be raised”
vs. “Jews should be thrown in ovens” is grounds for a beating.But isn’t this sinking to their level?
That depends. After you punch the Nazi, do you espouse the tenets of National Socialism?
No.
Then you’re better than a Nazi.
But doesn’t this just give the other side ammunition?
The other side in this argument are lying fucks who can twist any
piece of information into a swastika-shaped balloon animal if you engage
them in good faith; lacking a piece of information, they’ll just make
shit up. Might as well punch a Nazi.What about peace, love, and understanding?
Great goals, and once we get rid of the Nazis we can get to work on
them. All three are completely impossible when Nazis are about.When should you punch a Nazi?
Whenever you get a chance. Preferably when they’re not looking.
What if they’re smaller than you?
Hit them with your fist.
What if they’re bigger?
Hit them with a bat.
Isn’t this a slippery slope?
After we defeated the Nazis in World War II, did we keep shooting people or did the troops come home and start having babies?
The second thing.
There you go. The slippery slope argument is nine times out of ten
bullshit. Human beings are good with slippery slopes: we build stairs.What if you think you’re punching a Nazi, but you just hit a white guy with a shitty haircut?
Run.
What should you do if you hit a Nazi?
You should run then, too. Don’t get me wrong: punching Nazis is still illegal. We’re discussing morality.
But I don’t want to punch anyone.
Then get off your duff, mister, and give aid and support to the boys on the front lines. We’re all in this together. Again.
The other side in this argument are lying fucks who can twist any piece of information into a swastika-shaped balloon animal if you engage them in good faith; lacking a piece of information, they’ll just make shit up. Might as well punch a Nazi.